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Author Topic: ....real bait/ no bait/ plastics....opinions please!  (Read 566 times)
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« Topic Start: February 05, 2007, 01:57:55 PM »

....I'd like to hear anyone's advice as far as bait goes....so far this year I've been using a "Gooey Bob" along with my jig.  Would I have more success using eggs/shrimp/prawn etc.?  Being a Bass fisherman I've always liked the idea of using plastics but if change would bring more success then I'd use bait....

....anyone wanting to give there opinion?  Has there been a poll in the past regarding this subject?

....also....has anyone else used a "gooey bob"  with there jig? 

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« Reply #1: February 05, 2007, 03:16:56 PM »

In the past i have used yarn for just about anytime of the year. Skein works excellent in the fall. Drift fishing with a wobble glo and a worm on the end also works well. Jig and worm has worked for me too under a float. I have also drifted a wobble glo with yarn or Skein and done well. Even a wobble glo by itself will work. I have not tried an egg on a jig, but i will be giving it a try real soon.

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« Reply #2: February 05, 2007, 03:28:53 PM »

I have always liked to feel that I can fish totally effective with artificials. This is especially handy when fishing for nates in the late winter as many systems require only sinlge barbless hooks and artificial lures. That being said, I have always done better on early winter hatchery fish with bait and when February rolls around I fish only artificials such as pink worms, glo bugs, spoons, spinnners, jigs.

I think a good steelheader will do as well or better with artificials while at the same time be fishing legally in  most waters.

I have never tried a goey bob on a jig, but I know that roe on a jig works well at times.

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« Reply #3: February 05, 2007, 03:52:21 PM »

bait makes the job easier when fishing for picky fish, but in the end, it's just a big dumb trout and odds are that if it looks like bait, it'll give it a taste test.

i didn't really start fishing roe or shrimp much until a couple years ago, most of my fish were taken on a corky/yarn setup.  i can safely say i didn't catch many fish in muddy water, and i really didn't hook all that many fish under optimal conditions either.

if there's less than 8" of visibility and i don't have bait, i concede defeat and go home.  unless you're lucky enough to bop one on the nose with a pink worm or something, the fish won't smell it and probably won't see it either, which really decreases your odds of hooking something(unless you're one of the types that fish the 8' leaders and a tiny tuft of yarn, but i'm not gonna lump you in with those goobers just yet).

i've had phenominal luck fishing soft plastics in the last year or so.  when water visibility is two feet or greater, i generally leave the egg box at home.  gooey bobs and yarn bugs work extremely well when fishing in high visibility conditions, drifted or fished under a bobber depending on what type of water you're fishing and what technique you prefer.  i'm even starting to turn on to those pink worm things laugh  strangely enough, a hit on something soft is generally easier to feel than it is on bait.

strangely enough, i often find the old mainstay of the drift fisherman, the little corky, taking the sideline when fishing baitless.  i've found that i have better luck using something soft, or fishing a multicolored ball of yarn by itself.  the corkies get saved for when i'm fishing bait and want something for a little contrast and flotation, rarely as a primary attractor.

it's my belief that steelhead strike largely on visibility, so if that river's nice and green or clear, tie on something artificial!  nice side benefit is that you don't "waste" your eggs on steelhead...you can build them up for fish that it's almost a requirement for, like silvers and kings!

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« Reply #4: February 05, 2007, 04:09:02 PM »

In waters where you are allowed bait I will usually have some with me, or scent. Not so much for the bait its self but more as a cover scent for my stinky hands. In waters where bait/scent isnt allowed I have more conficence in my abilities than where everyone is chucking bait. Plastics can be dynomite. Last year one of my top producing jigs was any coloured top hackle on a jig with a 3" bass twister tail in pink, orange or chartreuce.

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« Reply #5: February 06, 2007, 07:01:26 AM »

thanks for all the great info....you guys have given me a little boost of confidence about using artificials....since thats what I prefer....

I would love to hear more opinions.

I'm going to try some pink worms this weekend....thanks again for all the great info!

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« Reply #6: February 06, 2007, 09:56:12 AM »

Steelhead will use whatever sense they need for a particular water height and clarity.

When clear, steelhead will be sight biters most often.  When muddy, scent (baits) will help most of the time.

If you ever get the chance to see steelhead pick up a lure or bait, they will usually take it in and breathe it out very quickly.  If its bait, they will hold on longer.

Many fishermen don't understand that steelhead will often have a bait in their mouth for a second or two and then spit it right back out.  I have seen fish pick up my lures w/o me ever feeling them, then  just as quickly spit them out.

I think a steelhead will only hang on if the lure/bait passes the "taste test"



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« Reply #7: February 06, 2007, 11:35:39 AM »

and therein lies the reason that when i fish a gooey bob, i always add a small bit of yarn through the egg loop.  though i'm sure it gives it some more action, the big benefit of yarn that a lot of people have forgotten is that it tends to hang up in a fish's teeth, and give you longer to set the hook.

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« Reply #8: February 06, 2007, 12:12:53 PM »

It really depends on the fish and the conditions...

There's a local stream around here that gets a pretty good shot of February natives...but I'd say that 90% of the anglers who give it a shot get blanked...repeatedly.  It's a very tough stream, access is horrible, and the fish use different parts of the river as the conditions change, and the conditions change throughout the day, almost every day.

Almost everyone is either fishing with sanshrimp, or a float and jig...and while they do work, I use pink worms and eggs under a float, pretty much the only one using either of those techniques.  Since I'm showing them something different, I think it helps my success there.

I've been known to catch a fish or two on plastic worms...and when it comes to native fish, especially on anything from medium sized to really large rivers,  I'll fish with them no matter if bait is allowed or not, as I think they just work better.

For hatchery bananas, especially winter run hatchery bananas, using bait will up your odds considerably.

Fish on...

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