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Ive always used marabough for all my steelhead jigs but Ive been hearing a lot about schlappen. Ive looked at a few jigs made of this material and it looks awsome, it almost looks like hackle fibers but with the same limpness of marabough, Ive also heard that it really expands in the water. Has anyone had good experiance with this stuff, does it have as much or better action than marabough? Thanks for the help.
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« Reply #1: November 22, 2007, 09:59:32 PM » |
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Jake, I think they both have their place. Maribou is long , very active and flowing in the water, but when wet is slims down to a small profile. Schlappin is not usually as long, but is a little stiffer, therefore giving a larger profile when wet. I like them both, and have experimented with using them both together.
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« Reply #2: November 23, 2007, 10:12:15 PM » |
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I agree, both have a place when tying jigs. Always fun to try different materials and combinations. Lots of choices of materials and colors on the market. The two beaded Schlappen jig is one of my favorites for both salmon and steelhead. You can see some jigs tied up with different materials at bradsjigs.com.
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« Reply #3: November 24, 2007, 02:27:16 PM » |
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I find that the schapplen is a little stffer and opens up more in stonger flows, but old trusty marabou is awsome is slower water. then there is rabbit fur another favourite of mine
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« Reply #4: November 24, 2007, 06:04:59 PM » |
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« Reply #5: November 24, 2007, 06:09:30 PM » |
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Ok so when you go to palmer(spelling?) you arent suppose to tie the stem down to the the hook shank??
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« Reply #6: November 24, 2007, 07:39:09 PM » |
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Your supposed to tie in the feathered tip the best you can, at least thats the way I palmer all my marabough.
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« Reply #7: November 24, 2007, 08:34:49 PM » |
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Add a bigger piece of prawn and it wont even matter ain't that the truth,...Nice one Oliver!  |
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« Reply #8: November 24, 2007, 09:30:20 PM » |
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I always have tied in the marabou stem side first. I usually "choke up" on the feather a bit to get to the finer part of the stem. I can't say if this is correct, but seems to work OK through trial and error. I haven't tied with schlappen yet as it's a bit hard to find locally (I don't live close to a "real" fly shop, and have been too busy to drive out of the way). I really like the finished look of the schlappen, and will probably tie a ton of jigs with it if they look OK.
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« Reply #9: November 24, 2007, 09:38:33 PM » |
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I think schlappen lacks in action to a certain extent. Great collar, but not my favorite material for the full body of a jig. I think BC may have nailed it!  |
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« Reply #10: November 24, 2007, 11:54:28 PM » |
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Seriously though, I'm not really fond of one to the exclusion of the other. A schlap/bou combo works nicely together as the schlap holds out the bou for a little better profile in the water. Bou is deadly as a "tail" for jigs though and I really like schlap as a collar material. If I'm running just schlap I will usually be using some kind of plastic on there as well like a grub or worm. Its all good and a good dollop of sand shrimp paste on the head will make up for any short commings Nice new "ism" Devle  |
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« Reply #11: November 25, 2007, 12:06:57 AM » |
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« Reply #12: November 25, 2007, 08:58:32 PM » |
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I haven't tied with schlappen yet as it's a bit hard to find locally (I don't live close to a "real" fly shop, and have been too busy to drive out of the way).
Me either, the only reason that the small shop I go to carries it is because the owner is a winter steelhead guide so he ties all his own jigs for his clients so really if he wants a specific material in his store he gots it. Thanks for all the inputs I may just stick to marabough, bunny fur and rubber legs for now, thats kind of all I need actually. Thanks a bunch! Jake |
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« Reply #13: November 25, 2007, 09:05:06 PM » |
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Since the closure of The Morning Hatch in Tacoma, I don't have a local flyshop anymore either. I have order some materials online from Bob Mariotts Fly Fishing StoreI have visited their store in California, and it is close to where my in-laws live. They are very knowledgable and helpful. I found the have and awsome schlappin in a shrimp pink color. |
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Beelee jigs has some nice schlappen jigs if you want to try before you tie. You can order online & get them in 3 or 4 days.
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