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« Topic Start: January 06, 2012, 08:11:00 PM »

WDFW NEWS RELEASE
Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
600 Capitol Way North, Olympia, WA 98501-1091
http://wdfw.wa.gov/

January 6, 2012
Contact: Bob Leland, (360) 902-2817

Fishing in rivers around Puget Sound to close
due to low wild steelhead returns

OLYMPIA - Fishing for steelhead and other game fish will close early in several river systems in Puget Sound and along the Strait of Juan de Fuca to protect wild steelhead, the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) announced today.

The early closures will affect the Nooksack, Skagit, Stillaguamish, Snohomish and Puyallup river systems, along with several streams along the Strait of Juan de Fuca.

Most river systems will close Feb. 1. However, the Puyallup River system will close Jan. 16, and some waters near WDFW fish hatcheries are scheduled to close Feb. 16.

Pre-season estimates developed by WDFW last fall indicate that wild steelhead will return to those watersheds in numbers far short of target levels, said Bob Leland, WDFW's steelhead program manager.

"By taking this action, we can protect wild steelhead that do make it back to these river systems," he said.

The early closures are timed in each watershed to coincide with the traditional dates wild steelhead return to those Washington rivers, Leland said.

Wild steelhead returning to most of the rivers scheduled to close are listed as "threatened" under the federal Endangered Species Act (ESA). Although anglers are required to release any wild steelhead they catch in these rivers, some of those fish inevitably die from the experience, Leland said.

The closures are necessary to meet the conservation objectives of WDFW's statewide steelhead management plan and comply with provisions of the ESA, he said.

Meanwhile, WDFW is proposing to make these early closure dates permanent to help protect future runs of wild steelhead, Leland said. The deadline for submitting written comments to the department on that and other proposed sportfishing rules was Dec. 30, but the Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission will accept both written and verbal comments at its Jan. 6-7 meeting in Olympia. For contact information, see http://wdfw.wa.gov/commission/ .

The commission, which sets policy for WDFW, is scheduled to vote on the final sportfishing rules package during a meeting Feb. 3-4. For more information on the proposed rules, visit the department's website at http://wdfw.wa.gov/fishing/regulations/rule_proposals/ .

Waters closing to fishing Jan. 16, 2012, by emergency rule include:

Puyallup River System

White River from the mouth to the R Street Bridge in Auburn.
Carbon River from the mouth to the Highway 162 Bridge.
Upper Puyallup River from the mouth of the Carbon River upstream.
Waters closing to fishing Feb. 1, 2012, by emergency rule include:

Nooksack River System

Nooksack River mainstem from the Lummi Indian Reservation boundary to the confluence of North and South forks.
North Fork Nooksack River from Maple Creek to Nooksack Falls.
Middle Fork Nooksack River from the mouth to the City of Bellingham diversion Dam.
South Fork Nooksack River from the mouth to Skookum Creek.
Skagit River System

Skagit River mainstem from the mouth to the Highway 530 Bridge at Rockport.
Skagit River from the mouth of the Cascade River to the Gorge powerhouse at Newhalem.
Sauk River from the mouth to the Whitechuck River.
Cascade River from the Rockport-Cascade Road Bridge upstream to headwaters.
Snohomish River System

Snohomish River from the mouth (Burlington Northern railroad bridge) upstream to the confluence of the Skykomish and Snoqualmie rivers.
Skykomish River from the mouth to the Highway 2 Bridge at the Big Eddy Access.
Pilchuck River from the mouth to 500 feet downstream of the Snohomish city diversion dam.
Sultan River from the mouth to 400 feet downstream of diversion dam (river mile 9.7).
Wallace River from 200 feet upstream of water intake of salmon hatchery to Wallace Falls.
North Fork Skykomish River from the mouth to 1,000 feet downstream of Bear Creek Falls.
South Fork Skykomish River from the mouth to 600 feet downstream of Sunset Falls fishway.
Snoqualmie River from the mouth to the boat ramp at Plum access.
Tolt River from the mouth to the USGS trolley cable near confluence of North and South forks.
Raging River from the mouth to Highway 18 Bridge.
Stillaguamish River System

Stillaguamish River from Marine Drive upstream to forks.
Pilchuck Creek from the mouth to Highway 9 Bridge.
North Fork Stillaguamish River from the mouth to the mouth of French Creek.
South Fork Stillaguamish River from the mouth to 400 feet below the Granite Falls fishway outlet.
Canyon Creek from the mouth upstream.
Strait of Juan de Fuca

Dungeness River from the mouth upstream to the forks at Dungeness Forks Campground.
Morse Creek from the mouth to the Port Angeles Dam.
Salt Creek from the mouth to the bridge on Highway 112.
Deep Creek from the mouth upstream.
Pysht River from the mouth upstream.
Clallam River from the mouth upstream.
Sekiu River from the mouth to forks.
Waters closing to fishing Feb. 16, 2012, by emergency rule include:

North Fork Nooksack River from the mouth to Maple Creek.
Skykomish River from the Highway 2 Bridge at the Big Eddy Access to the confluence of North and South forks.
Wallace River from the mouth (farthest downstream railroad bridge) to 200 feet upstream of the water intake of salmon hatchery.
Snoqualmie River from the boat ramp at Plum access to Snoqualmie Falls.
Tokul Creek from the mouth to the posted cable boundary marker.
North Fork Stillaguamish River from the mouth of French Creek to the Swede Heaven Bridge.
Skagit River from the Highway 530 Bridge at Rockport to the mouth of the Cascade River.
Cascade River from the mouth to Rockport-Cascade Road Bridge.
Leland reminds anglers that the Samish River, from the I-5 Bridge to the Hickson Bridge, closed to fishing Dec. 1. The stretch of the Samish River, from the mouth to the I-5 Bridge closed Jan.1.

For more information on the closures, check the emergency rule changes on WDFW's website at http://1.usa.gov/hfDjYl .



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« Reply #1: January 06, 2012, 08:24:00 PM »

I wouldn't expect any different in the foreseeable future - unfortunately Sad  I would be interested to know what the escapement numbers need to be on the puget sound rivers to allow a c n r season.  As the hatchery programs are reduced or eliminated so will the seasons go, as there are zero allowable impacts on native steelhead.  Would be nice for wdfw to release the required benchmarks for escapement along with these closure notices to show, for example, we need to see 800 wild steelhead returning to the puyallup for 2 of 3 years with the other year not under 500 before a c n r season can be allowed.  Also, release the escapement numbers for recent years.
Seems like we are seeing better ocean survival and return rates these last couple of years, hopefully that along with early closures will help make a nice turnaround for the nates (gotta have a silver lining to the cloud!).
Here's hoping Wink

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« Reply #2: January 06, 2012, 08:26:47 PM »

Anyone know how they predict escapement? I know for salmon, jacks are often an indicator but what about steelhead? Sucks. Wish I was fishinf when these closures weren't even a thought. Time to gas up the rig.

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« Reply #3: January 06, 2012, 08:45:05 PM »

Talk about a total buzz kill. Another member and I had some serious plans on doing some fishing on the upper reaches of the home river, but that ain't gonna happen.

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« Reply #4: January 06, 2012, 08:59:15 PM »

thanx Ed I think I,ll have another beer to dull the pain

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« Reply #5: January 06, 2012, 09:01:25 PM »

As much as I am for the steelhead,and their survival and everything,this is a bitter pill to swallow............We went from having the local waters open till the end of March to this........I never fished the good old years as the old timers put it, but fished the tail end of those glory days enough(as a young buck) that I have great memories and stories of the good old days.The Chum fishery by the tribes hurt these runs bad. Sad...Sad times for me as I miss fishing close to home.........even if I did not catch much,I was still enjoying some beautiful time on the water 10 minutes from my home and from this time till the end of March...........some Miracles did happen from time to time. As i said last year,My catch numbers have been better since these early closures since I have been forced to travel to locations where the numbers are better. I still would rather catch less and fish more.............I miss the Late Feb and March fishery close to home. When you have most of the river to yourself, and have Mount Rainier what looks to be within arms length,that's good stuff.....

I am saddened to think what all the old boys that shared stories and mentored be would think about what our generations have done to this great system.
Actually I am ashamed!

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« Reply #6: January 07, 2012, 08:06:31 AM »

indians,comarants,mergansers,poachers,and piss poor manegment by the state = yer ass getting plowed.  WTF WTF bs flag bs flag lame wow i guess i could have said all i needed in just pics

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« Reply #7: January 07, 2012, 09:40:49 AM »

booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooo

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« Reply #8: January 07, 2012, 05:53:06 PM »

Is the Green closed? If not where does it fit in this equation of Puget Sound closures?

Funny thing to ponder is the one little stream(Samish) that exceeded escapement last year is closed already due to no hatchery plants left to harvest.

What is the action plan to manage all the guides and anglers hitting the coast?  Should be a permit system and guiding any ole river any ole time should not be allowed.   

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« Reply #9: January 07, 2012, 06:06:57 PM »

Is the Green closed? If not where does it fit in this equation of Puget Sound closures?

Funny thing to ponder is the one little stream(Samish) that exceeded escapement last year is closed already due to no hatchery plants left to harvest.

What is the action plan to manage all the guides and anglers hitting the coast?  Should be a permit system and guiding any ole river any ole time should not be allowed.   


First thing I checked Mike.....Green closes end of the month as planed according to the general regs,.........
The coast thing...........going to get interesting since it will be the only show in town soon.
Sad days for us "Old' steelheaders....... Angry


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« Reply #10: January 07, 2012, 08:12:29 PM »

We think that we have it bad.  You could have an example like the famed Thompson in BC.  The Skagit system won't open with 6,000 or so returning fish because it is below escapement.  Yet the Thompson barely opened this year (closed last year) on a 60% chance of reaching 800 fish, which was deemed to be an escapement goal.  The biologists had their arms twisted into saying that they believed the population had "leveled and stabilized" at a new lower level than what was previously believed to be a healthy number.  Is that what we want?

Or we will think nothing of fishing the Hoh where escapement has only been reached 50%(give or take from the info I read on the boards) of the last 10 years. There isn't much consistency in my book.  It wasn't more than 8 years or so ago that the Wynoochee was to exceed escapement goals and management proposed a kill fishery...instead lengthened the C&R season.  How about building a run. So much inconsistency and hypocrisy.

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« Reply #11: January 07, 2012, 08:16:46 PM »

Under the ESA logic used in the Puget Closures the only thing keeping rivers open is the weak hatchery programs.  Once they are gone due to impotence, budget cuts and or biological concerns for how hatchery fish negatively affect wild fish...game over.  So far this is affecting steelhead mostly but I bet with cut coho hatchery programs...most rivers don't have the wild coho to keep them open under the same guidelines.  I'm not sure why that hasn't already been implemented.

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« Reply #12: January 07, 2012, 09:02:14 PM »

Maybe the Puyallup tribe should take over the Voights Hatchery and pump some steelhead in the river? Thats really the only chance we have of fishing it again for nates.

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« Reply #13: January 07, 2012, 11:04:10 PM »

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The Puyallup Tribe and the Muckleshoot’s are continuing with the native brood stock program on the Puyallup system. It's a combination of efforts at the DiRu Hatchery located on Pioneer and also the White River Hatchery. The WRH is where the ponds are that they transport the fry to and keep them until they just about smolt, then they're released. Last year they had a fairly high success rate with returns and are very pleased with the direction the program is going. In the next couple weeks, I will have discussions with those involved in keeping this program going and we'll have discussions On-Air on Wild Country to bring everyone up to speed. Give me a couple weeks to finish gathering info and I'll get it out there to give folks a glimmer of hope...


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« Reply #14: January 08, 2012, 08:54:05 AM »

With the closure and the fish coming froa Native hatchery, are the Natives fishing on them? I know a river that has hatchery steelhead put in it but is not open to sportsman but is to natives for hook and line with a two fish limit but illegal gill netting is occurring..

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