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« Topic Start: February 02, 2012, 01:25:55 PM »

I usually spend a good portion of my free time during February and March on the Methow river. The last two years I've had tremendous success there. Its the one river I knew I could catch 5-10 steelhead a day. Well this year its closed. The reason I'm being told is that there are too many wild fish compared to hatchery.

From what I'm being told by others who fish there plus a few fishing guides who get there best business during Feb. and Mar. the problem is not being reported accurately....the true problem is that the hatchery's are not doing a good enough job clipping, so consequently hatchery fish are being counted as wild.

Can the people reporting these numbers be trusted? Who's watching the counters....I'm also being told those doing the counting are also allowed to fish....anyone know any truth to that? Even worse then that, I was told that these counters go down the river in a raft counting the fish and then later go back to where they have found good numbers of steelhead and they get to fish for them and it's legal for just them. Of course there catching and releasing, but that's all I do as well.


Sorry for complaining....and I'm sure I don't know the whole story....but this really has me bummed out. Cry

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« Reply #1: February 02, 2012, 04:57:05 PM »

Wouldnt be the first time that WDFW has closed fisheries due to junk data or junk science. 

Not really understanding that closure... if there are "too many" wild fish... wouldnt that mean that a fishery would be supported with the fact they have a bigger buffer for catch and release mortality?  They use the logic of too few wild fish in a system to "close" systems on the PS all the time.  Never heard of "too many"

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« Reply #2: February 02, 2012, 05:43:24 PM »

Sorry man.  Rumors about special fishing privileges have been floating around for a while, it would be nice to get to the bottom of it and know exactly what is going on.  I feel for the guides that have to deal with this crap, not knowing where they can fish from year to year.

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« Reply #3: February 02, 2012, 06:20:02 PM »

Wfc,

Too many is almost as bad as too few. Its ridiculous that over escapement is looked at as bad thing. Habitat will max out, we must bring back out the nets.

I told Ed this the other day, but even though we are paying for the white river hatchery plants they are broodstock that return late ( march thru may). They get around 100 or so back give or take and have no intent on ever having a fishery on them. They aren't fin clipped, only tagged in the snout.... At least Snider fish are able to be legally target and not just throwing money down the drain. This info is straight from the hatchery

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